The Grammarphobia Blog: You have no idear! (2024)

Q: Where does the additional “r” sound come from when people in certain areas of the Northeast want a drink of “soder” or think of an “idear”?

A: This “r” business is a bit more complicated than you might think. The short answer is that the addition of an “r” sound at the end of a word like “soda” or “idea” is a regionalism and isn’t considered a mispronunciation. Here’s the story.

In English words spelled with “r,” the consonant used to be fully pronounced everywhere. But today, some speakers (particularly in certain parts of England and the Eastern US) give “r” its full sound only before a vowel, either in the same word or in the word immediately following.

Take the word “better” as an example. These speakers pronounce it bettuh, but they add the “r” if a vowel sound follows. For example, the same speaker would say, “I’m bettuh paid,” but “I’m better off.”

To use another example, the same speaker would say, “New York isn’t fah,” but “New York isn’t far away.” Such speakers are basically using the “r” to link what they pronounce as two vowel sounds. Linguists have called this phenomenon the “linking r.”

Because of the tendency to pronounce an “r” when it occurs between vowel sounds, many of these same speakers go a step more and add an “r” where it doesn’t belong, once again between two vowel sounds.

Linguists call this the “intrusive r,” and that’s what you hear when someone says, “My soder [soda] is flat.” The “r” is inserted AFTER words ending in “uh” sounds just BEFORE words starting with vowels. So the same speaker would say things like this:

(1) “My old sofa died,” but “My new sofer is great.”

(2) “That’s a bad idea,” but “That idear annoys me.”

(3) “England and America joined,” but “Ameriker and England joined.”

(4) “The law says so,” but “It’s the lawr of the land.”

(5) “Tuna grills nicely,” but “Tuner is my favorite fish.”

This explanation of the “linking r” and the “intrusive r” is greatly simplified. Some speakers will add “r” more generally, pronouncing “idea” and “soda” as idear and soder even at the end of a sentence. And some speakers will drop “r” more generally, saying things like bettuh and fah even before vowels.

But this should give you a general idear about what’s going on!

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The Grammarphobia Blog: You have no idear! (2024)

FAQs

Why do people pronounce idea ider? ›

It's likely because those speakers have pronounced rhotic accents, which means that they generate an 'r' sound as part of certain vowels. Edit: It's also common in non-rhotic accents to have an 'r' appear in certain circ*mstances.

Why do Brits pronounce idea as idear? ›

Why do Brits say idear? This happens when the following word begins with a vowel sound - it's not easy to pronounce two consecutive vowel sounds in many British English accents, so we put in what's called an “intrusive R” to facilitate pronunciation. For example: “The idea is blah blah blah.”

Why do New Yorkers add an R? ›

To use another example, the same speaker would say, “New York isn't fah,” but “New York isn't far away.” Such speakers are basically using the “r” to link what they pronounce as two vowel sounds. Linguists have called this phenomenon the “linking r.”

Is what ever one word or two? ›

Critics have occasionally objected to the one-word form, but many respected writers have used it. The same is true of the forms whoever, whenever, wherever, and however. In adjectival uses, however, only the one-word form is used: Take whatever (not what ever) books you need.

Why do New Yorkers not pronounce r? ›

Elusive “R”

In the past, the silent “r” was considered a sign of immigrants or the lower class, therefore, it was stigmatized. While still popular, the number of New Yorkers that drop the “r” is dwindling.

Who says warsh instead of wash? ›

The intrusive R in “warsh” is most commonly associated with a dialect of American English known as the Midland dialect.

When did England stop pronouncing r? ›

For Wyld, the loss of r began in eastern England in the mid-15th century, and by the mid-16th century it had spread to both other consonants and the London vernacular. Hill (1940), on the other hand, describes a loss of the pronunciation of /r/ in the 14th century.

When did the English stop pronouncing r? ›

No English authorities described loss of /r/ in the standard language before the mid-18th century, and many did not fully accept it until the 1790s.

How do New Yorkers say water? ›

Water is pronounced "waw-tuh"

New Yorkers drop the "R" here.

What words do New Yorkers say weird? ›

New York Accent “AW”

As you might already notice that in the most common words New Yorkers say differently, you will hear the “aw” emphasized in words like coffee, talk, and water. This happens with words that have “au”, “aw”, “of”, “ou”, “ar”, and “or” to name some (I am sure there are more)!

How do New Yorkers say orange? ›

Ms. MacKenzie said "forest" and "orange" are pronounced FORE-ist and OR-inge in Connecticut, but as FAR-ist and ARE-inge in New York.

Is whatever a rude word? ›

The term is used either to dismiss a previous statement and express indifference or in affirmation of a previous statement as "whatever will be will be". An interjection of "whatever" can be considered offensive and impolite or it can be considered affirming.

Is anyone a single word? ›

Anyone as a pronoun meaning “anybody” or “any person at all” is written as one word: Does anyone have the correct time? The two-word phrase any one means “any single member of a group of persons or things” and is often followed by of: Can any one of the members type?

What is the first word ever? ›

The Oldest Word in the World. It is believed the first spoken word was “Aa,” which meant hey. “Aa” is thought to have first been spoken by an australopithecine in Ethiopia over a million years ago.

What accent Cannot say r? ›

Rhotacism is a speech impediment that is defined by the lack of ability, or difficulty in, pronouncing the sound R. Some speech pathologists, those who work with speech impediments may call this impediment de-rhotacization because the sounds don't become rhotic, rather they lose their rhotic quality.

Which English Cannot pronounce R letters? ›

British English is non-rhotic. The letter "r" is not pronounced after vowels, unless it is also followed by a vowel.

What is the most mispronounced word in America? ›

#1 Challenging Word – February

The first word up is February. Many English speakers, even native English speakers, are challenged when they pronounce that first “r.” So, they reduce the “r” in spoken language and pronounce it as feb-you-air-ee instead of feb-roo-air-ee.

Why do Bostonians not pronounce their R's? ›

“One of the main reasons why Boston and its hinterland are r-less is that a lot of the original settlers of the region were from East Anglia, in the southeast of England, which is where not pronouncing the r started off,” he says. “A lot of the original colonists were already r-less, even if most of Britain wasn't.”

When did Americans stop speaking like British? ›

Most scholars have roughly located “split off” point between American and British English as the mid-18th-Century. There are some clear exceptions.

Can Americans say r? ›

Reminder: The r is always pronounced in American English, even at the end of words, like in more, far, mother, and before a consonant, like in morning, survive and thirty.

Is the American accent the original British accent? ›

In all reality, the standard British accent was the one that changed significantly in the last two centuries while the American accent stayed more or less the same. During the American Revolution, the English language started to change in Britain. A new wealthy sector emerged during the industrial revolution.

Is r silent in British accent? ›

These are known as 'rhotic' speakers. English accents that follow the silent < r > rule are known as 'non-rhotic', and these include most accents in England, Wales, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.

What accent is silent r? ›

English accents that contain silent ⟨r⟩ are 'non-rhotic'; these include most English accents in England, Wales, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa. Accents in which every ⟨r⟩ is pronounced are 'rhotic', and these include most accents in USA, Canada, Ireland, Northern Ireland and Scotland.

Why don t Americans pronounce their ts? ›

Here's what we discovered. The phenomenon itself is known as “T-glottalization.” It occurs when a speaker swallows the T sound in a word rather than speaking it aloud. We hear it when words like “kitten” and “water” are pronounced like “KIH-en” and “WAH-er.”

Do Americans pronounce T at the end of a word? ›

At the ends of words, Americans often use a stopped T. This means they move the tongue into position for the /t/, but they don't release the air.

What do the British call what Americans call cookies? ›

Biscuit (UK) / Cookie (US)

In the US, cookies are flat, round snacks made of sweet dough. In the UK, these are generally called biscuits, although people do call the bigger, softer kind cookies, too.

Do New Yorkers say I'm walking here? ›

5. “Fuhgeddabouit!” File this one under “I'm walking here!” Nobody from New York actually says either of these things. 6. “Avenue of the Americas.” We'll meet you on Sixth and 14th, OK?

What is a queens accent? ›

Published 25 May 2022. Pronunciation Insights, Research and Linguistics. Anyone who has heard the Queen's speeches will recognise her distinctive British accent. This is RP – 'Received Pronunciation'.

What is the trickiest word to say? ›

The Most Difficult English Word To Pronounce
  • Rural.
  • Otorhinolaryngologist.
  • Colonel.
  • Penguin.
  • Sixth.
  • Isthmus.
  • Anemone.
  • Squirrel.
Oct 26, 2018

What words do Americans say weird? ›

50 Words People Say Differently
  • Tomato. -Tuh-mah-toh. -Tuh-may-toh.
  • Horror. -Hoar-er. -Hahr-er.
  • Data. -Day-tuh. -Dah-tuh.
  • Pecan. -Pee-can. -Peh-cahn.
  • Apricot. -Ape-rih-caht. -App-rih-caht.
  • Leisure. -Leh-szuhr. -Lee-szuhr.
  • Handkerchief. -Hayn-kehr-chiff. -Hayn-kehr-cheef.
  • Adult. -Ah-duhlt. -Uh-duhlt.
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What is New York slang for money? ›

Guap. This New York slang word usually means money. “Don't forget to count all your guap before you clock out tonight.”

How do Midwesterners say bag? ›

Most North American English speakers pronounce the word bag with the same vowel as in the word back [æ], but many Wisconsinites pronounce bag with the same vowel as bagel [e:].

How do New Yorkers say aunt? ›

More specifically, New England (including Boston). If you look at the breakdown by state in the survey you cite, around 82% of the people pronounce "ant" and "aunt" the same in New York and New Jersey, while only 14% do in Massachusetts. I'm from Massachusetts. I say Ahnt.

What is a stronger word than rude? ›

impolite, bad-mannered, ill-mannered, mannerless, unmannerly, and discourteous. A word that suggests that a person doesn't know how to interact with others—or doesn't care how they do—is tactless. Words that suggest a more active, deliberate rudeness are disrespectful, insolent, and impertinent.

Is saying OK and rude? ›

Conversation. Depending on the context of the conversation using the word “o*kay” to respond to a short/long text can be viewed as being rude/dismissive by the person you are talking to. Sometimes more is expected of you than mere acknowledgment.

What's a fancy word for whatever? ›

anything , anything that, whatsoever (formal), anyway , anyhow. Sense: Adverb: no matter what. Synonyms: no matter what, regardless of what, never mind, never mind how much, however much, whichever. Sense: Adverb: anyway.

Is there a first person word? ›

Person is expressed through the different personal pronouns, such as “I” (first-person pronoun), “you” (second-person pronoun), and “they” (third-person pronoun).

What is the longest single word? ›

In that case, what's the longest word in the English language dictionary? It's pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis.

Is it OK to be single? ›

It is perfectly okay to be happily single and enjoy yourself. In fact, it is healthy to focus on creating a full, happy life, whether you're single or in a relationship. There are many enjoyable aspects of being single. You can enjoy meaningful, fulfilling connections no matter what your relationship status is.

What was the first word God said? ›

Taking all of Genesis 1:2 as background information ("When in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth, the earth being untamed and shapeless, God said, Let there be light!").

What is the oldest English word still in use? ›

Scientists at the University of Reading have discovered that 'I', 'we', 'who' and the numbers '1', '2' and '3' are amongst the oldest words, not only in English, but across all Indo-European languages.

What is the meaning of Idear? ›

[ideˈar] Full verb table transitive verb. imaginar) to imagine , think up.

Where did the word Idear come from? ›

Etymology. The word idea comes from Greek ἰδέα idea "form, pattern," from the root of ἰδεῖν idein, "to see."

Why do some people pronounce their r's weird? ›

In some cases, it may be linked to tongue-tie (ankyloglossia). Tongue-tie may limit the range of tongue movements, which is critical for pronouncing /r/. Another possible reason a person has trouble pronouncing the r sound is a speech sound disorder that affects the mouth and lip placement.

What is r kid slang? ›

The catalogue number of each release begins with "RKID", which stands for "our kid"; Northern England slang to refer to a brother.

What is r in slang text? ›

What is r in slang text? "Romantic" is the most common definition for /R on Snapchat, WhatsApp, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. /R.

What does R I stand for? ›

A few common abbreviations found on your repair estimate include R & R (remove and replace) and R & I (remove and install).

When did the British stop pronouncing r? ›

For Wyld, the loss of r began in eastern England in the mid-15th century, and by the mid-16th century it had spread to both other consonants and the London vernacular. Hill (1940), on the other hand, describes a loss of the pronunciation of /r/ in the 14th century.

How was R pronounced in Old English? ›

R was possibly pronounced like a trill (like sometimes in Spanish, or by some Scottish English speakers), or as a flap (like a trill, but only once - like by some Irish speakers, or in most cases in Spanish), or similarly to how it is pronounced in Southern British English or General American today.

What is the hardest word to pronounce in America? ›

The word onomatopoeia is a jumble of vowels and is probably the most difficult English word to pronounce. It is pronounced [on-uh-mat-uh–pee–uh], and it defines a word that imitates a sound.

What is the hardest R word to say? ›

murderer. As we noted earlier, the R sound in English can be tricky. That's what makes murderer, with its three R sounds particularly difficult to pronounce. The word is pronounced [ mur-der-er ].

What accent Cannot say R? ›

Rhotacism is a speech impediment that is defined by the lack of ability, or difficulty in, pronouncing the sound R. Some speech pathologists, those who work with speech impediments may call this impediment de-rhotacization because the sounds don't become rhotic, rather they lose their rhotic quality.

What do you call people who say W instead of R? ›

The word for the practice of pronouncing 'r' as 'w' (or indeed pronouncing 'r' in any strange or exaggerated way) is "rhotacism" (or "rotacism").

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