Why The Acorns And Stash Investing Apps Are A Dumb Idea - Arrest Your Debt (2024)

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Sorry for being so blunt, but I really don’t like people or companies who take advantage of others. These apps are not made to make you successful, they are designed to make the company money – not you.

The Stash And Acorns App Basics

What are these apps? Acorns and Stash run on the same principle. They link to your bank accounts and every time you make a purchase, they round up to the nearest dollar and invest the change. So if you make a purchase for $1.75, your total price will be $2.00 and the app will invest $0.25 in the investment you have chosen. That’s it – just watch your money grow right? Wrong.

The Fees

Acorns and Stash each charge a monthly fee to your account when you use their program. Here is a break down of their fees:
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Investment Principles For Financial Success

So here at Arrest Your Debt, I firmly believe in being intentional when you save, spend, pay down debt, and invest. With these apps, you are only saving a small amount of money at a time and therefore compound interest is not working in your favor. You’re going nowhere fast. Invest little, earn little.

It also depends on where you currently are inThe Debt Payoff Playbook. Are you still in debt? If so, you should be putting all of your extra money towards debt, not investing your change. That change should be going towards your debt. If you have paid off your debt, why would you waste your time investing such a small amount of money?

You should be investing intentionally whether it be in an employer-sponsored retirement plan or a Roth IRA where you make regular deposits. Wasting your time with change is just that – wasting your time.

What’s The Difference Between A Roth IRA And A 401(k)/457?

Can Acorns And Stash Make You Money?

Maybe – and maybe not. Let’s look at how these businesses operate. How many times do you swipe your card each month? Hopefully, you have cut back since reading my blog. If you are smart and intentional with your money, you shouldn’t be buying something with plastic each and every day. But for argument sake, let’s say that you make a purchase every single day.

Let’s also be generous and assume that on average, your purchase results in $0.50 being deposited into your Acorns or Stash App. After 30 days, you would have deposited $15.00 into your account. At the end of the month, they will charge you $1.00, lowering your amount to $14.00. They just charged you 6.67% on your money, not including the expense ratios of the investment funds!

This may not mean much to you, but when you consider you can invest with a Vanguard or Charles Schwab Index fund for .08% or less, the 6.67% is insane!

How long would it take you to get up to $100 invested in your account by investing your change? Assuming you don’t lose any money in the market, it would take you almost 7 months to get $100 in your account (if you swiped your card every single day and deposited $0.50 into the app), not counting the $7.00 they would have taken from you in that time. If you get to that $100.00 amount, you will still be paying them 1% each month.

They have a long way to go to get anywhere near the index funds .08%… Why do I keep bringing up index funds? Because actively managed funds rarely beat the index over a sustained period of time. For more info, refer to my related article Exposing The Mutual Fund Industry.

If you were able to invest $1,000 in a years time (unrealistic only investing change), you would have paid them $12.00, which is still 1.2%! Again, if you understand how compound interest works, that 1.2% fee is heavily eating away at your investment. This also doesn’t count the possibility of a market drop. Your $1,000 could drop to $750 yet you still pay them their dollar every month.

When Do These Apps Make Sense?

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Never… well OK, obviously I’m very opinionated on the subject. Let’s look at it mathematically. If you could get up to $2,000 saved up in the account, you would be charged .05% on your money with the $1.00 they charge each month. That is a reasonable number and something I could get on board with… except for their fund sources.

Acorns and Stash only have a limited number of funds you can invest in and they categorize them by conservative to aggressive. You can not simply pick the fund you want to invest in, it will be a fund selected and recommended by the apps. Again, another reason to avoid these “investment apps.”

As far as Stash, if you invest too much and get up to $5,000, your fees will jump up to .25%. So with stash, if you have $4,999 invested, you will pay only .02% (excellent!) but if you invest one more dollar, it jumps up to .25%!

The Benefits of Acorns and Stash

I will admit, there are a couple of positives to Acorns and Stash. The biggest benefit I see is the ability to get millennials interested in investing. Millennials are quite distrusting of the market due to the recession in 2008, so using technology like this to get them investing is a good thing.

Unfortunately, I worry they may not see the benefit of investing when they struggle to even get up to $100.00, due to the app fees eating away all their money.

The other benefit is if you are able to get over $5,000 saved with the apps, they actually charge low fees in comparison to other investing platforms. The negative is the small pool of funds you can choose from.

Wrapping It All Up

All in all, I think the Acorns and Stash apps have an interesting business model, but I wish they would have set up their businesses to benefit the investor more than they do. I would venture to say that the vast amount of people never get over $1,000 saved in Stash or Acorns – and this benefits the companies.

If you want to invest, don’t play around with your change. Get intentional and invest in index funds with low expense ratios. Invest for the long term with companies and funds that won’t eat away at all your profits.

If you’re ready to invest, I wrote two great related articles: What Should I Do With $10,000?[Answered] andThe Hidden Fees In My Employer-Sponsored Retirement Plan.

I hope you found this article beneficial. I believe investing is confusing enough and I strongly dislike companies that try to unevenly profit off of well-meaning investors. They have a great business model that looks great on the surface. What is one dollar a month?

One dollar is extremely small, but it’s huge when it’s coming from your spare change investments. Please share this article across social media and don’t forget to subscribe below by email!! Keep learning my friends, you will get the hang of this! You work too hard to be this broke!
-Ryan

Why The Acorns And Stash Investing Apps Are A Dumb Idea - Arrest Your Debt (2024)

FAQs

Why are Acorns a bad idea? ›

Where Acorns falls short. No tax strategy: Unlike many of its competitors, Acorns does not offer a tax strategy. High fees on small balances: Because of its pricing structure, Acorns can have high fees on small account balances.

Is acorn a ripoff? ›

No, Acorns is not a scam. We've been helping everyday Americans save and invest since 2014.

Can I trust Acorns investing? ›

SSL encryption: Acorns' website and app are secured with 256-bit encryption. Account alerts: Investors will be notified about unusual account activity to help secure their accounts against fraud. Automatic logouts and ID verification: Account safeguards are in place to help prevent unauthorized access.

What happens to my money if Acorns shuts down? ›

If an Acorns Party and the Bank of Record suspend all services under the Program, including the management of invested funds in your accounts, Acorns Advisers will credit to your Portfolio Account or transfer to your Funding Source (including your Acorns Checking Account, as applicable) the prorated Subscription Fee ...

What are the downsides of acorn? ›

Acorns charges a steep $35 per ETF to transfer your account to another broker. That's in contrast to $75 per account at many robo-advisors and free at some companies. So that fee seems excessive relative to Acorns' peers. That said, you can always sell the ETFs and move your money cost-free out of the account.

What is better than Acorns? ›

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What is the Acorn Company controversy? ›

ACORN was criticized by Republicans for its support of Democratic candidates and for its general support of political positions that are more often favored by Democrats.

Can I trust Acorns with my SSN? ›

We go the extra mile when it comes to safe-keeping your personal information. We use 256-bit or higher encryption at all times to protect your data. Our Security Operations team monitors for suspicious activity 24/7. We also monitor our own layered, security defenses to help protect your data from potential threats.

Does Acorns charge a fee to withdraw? ›

Will I be charged a fee if I withdraw money from my Acorns Checking account at an ATM? Trish V. Acorns has partnered with Allpoint, which provides a network of 55,000+ ATMs globally, giving you fee-free access to cash when you need it. When you use your Acorns Visa™ debit card at an Allpoint ATM, there will be no fee.

Is it better to invest in Robinhood or Acorns? ›

Robinhood is less costly to use. Acorns is basically an automatic investor and advisor so it may be more appealing to a less-active investors. Robinhood is an easy-to-use but feature-limited trading platform so it may be more appealing to an active investor. Both only offer users limited options for support.

Why is Acorns charging me $3? ›

Acorns Fees and Costs

There are two Acorns membership tiers, both of which charge flat monthly fees: Personal: $3 per month. You get access to Invest, Later and Checking. Personal Plus: $5 per month.

What bank does Acorns use? ›

Banking with Acorns

Acorns Visa™ debit cards are issued by Lincoln Savings Bank or nbkc bank, Members FDIC for Acorns Checking account holders.

How do you get money out of Acorns without penalty? ›

Is there any way around these penalties? The easiest way to avoid penalties is to leave the money in your IRA alone until you reach the age of 59 ½. That's the age when you can make withdrawals without incurring any extra penalties or tax liability.

What is the deal with Acorns and police? ›

Early in 2024, body-worn camera footage was released showing a Florida deputy mistaking a falling acorn striking his vehicle with the sound of a gunshot. He then shot several rounds at the handcuffed and unarmed prisoner sitting in the patrol car. The video went viral both within and outside policing.

Is it safe to give Acorns my SSN? ›

We go the extra mile when it comes to safe-keeping your personal information. We use 256-bit or higher encryption at all times to protect your data. Our Security Operations team monitors for suspicious activity 24/7.

Do I have to report Acorns on my taxes? ›

When tax season arrives, you may be wondering if you owe taxes on your Acorns investments. The quick answer is, it depends on your portfolio. If you sold a portion of your investment and made a profit, then you will have to pay either the short-term or long-term capital gains tax on this amount.

How much money is safe in Acorns? ›

Since you deposited your money in an FDIC-insured account, the FDIC (an independent US government agency) will cover that money, up to $250,000. For more info, go to fdic.gov. Having FDIC insurance is common practice across all major banks in the US, and it's just one of the many ways Acorns helps keep your money safe.

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