Who asks Muffet to (spoilers) (2024)

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    KameNinja45 8 years ago#1

    get your soul? Muffet hints at it, saying she saw them in the shadows, changing shape, but I can't think of who it might be.

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    HylianAngel 8 years ago#2

    The shapeshifter is Mettaton. Mettaton says during his battle: "I WAS THE ONE THAT HIRED EVERYONE TO KILL YOU!" Since Mettaton's famous, he also has the money to afford paying off Muffet.

    During the Mettaton EX battle, he changes shape from box form to EX form. It’s stated to be his "premiere," but it just means that he hadn't shown off his new body in front of his audience yet.

    Soleil

    KameNinja45 (Topic Creator)8 years ago#3

    HylianAngel posted...

    The shapeshifter is Mettaton. Mettaton says during his battle: "I WAS THE ONE THAT HIRED EVERYONE TO KILL YOU!" Since Mettaton's famous, he also has the money to afford paying off Muffet.

    Thanks!

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    Deathfyre6 8 years ago#4

    It's Flowey, actually.

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    Sophos-Z 8 years ago#5

    Deathfyre6 posted...

    It's Flowey, actually.

    No, it's not. Originally, Flowey tries to kill you, but then he needs you to confront Asgore so he can gain power.

    HylianAngel 8 years ago#6

    Deathfyre6 posted...

    It's Flowey, actually.

    The shapeshifter can't be Flowey. Flowey never interferes directly, he only observes the Player until they reach Asgore. If you spare Toriel without killing her, Flowey states that his plan isn’t regicide, and that observing you is “SO much more interesting.” You can even check up on Flowey merely observing you and doing nothing else: if you can’t see the entrance of a room and if you get a phone call or a cutscene, you can return to the entrance of the room to see Flowey briefly before he disappears; he’s clearly following you, he’s not up ahead warning monsters, like Muffet, about you. There’s no personal gain out of him killing the Player; he only wants the 6 human souls.

    Flowey only warns Asgore during the Genocide runthrough when he's afraid that the Player will kill Flowey.

    Flowey also has to be especially careful since he’s lost his SAVE/LOAD powers. He makes it clear during post-Asgore conversations that Sans would kill Flowey whenever Sans learned about Flowey. In previous timelines, Papyrus knew Flowey’s name and created the Flowey Fan Club, but in this timeline, Papyrus does NOT know Flowey’s name. This indicates minimum interference.
    Undyne: So you hate this dog, but like weird talking flowers?
    Papyrus: THE FLOWER IS MY FRIEND!
    Undyne: I mean, if having an imaginary friend makes you happy…
    Papyrus: OH MY GOD!! HE’S NOT IMAGINARY! HE HAS A NAME!
    Undyne: What’s his name.
    Papyrus: FL… FLOWERY?
    Undyne: Oh my GOD!!! You just made that up!!
    Papyrus: OK, I DID!! BUT HE’S REAL!!

    The only time Flowey directly interferes is by using Papyrus to get the Player to befriend everyone then enter the True Lab.

    Soleil

    karablaise 8 years ago#7

    I also tend to think it's Flowey--I'm not sure Mettaton had changed bodies at all yet at that point, and his forms seem consistent enough that I don't think I'd expect him to be changing shape before someone's eyes (she clearly didn't flip his switch, after all, and he strongly implies that his new body's never been seen before).

    While Flowey doesn't necessarily want to kill you, he seems to know about the saves and reloads, so he'd probably know Muffet couldn't just kill you. However, he's very interested in pushing YOU into killing someone in self-defense

    ("But what will you do if you meet a relentless killer?")

    , and that, I think, provides plenty of motivation for him to push Muffet into fighting you. She's tough enough and uncooperative enough

    (you can't do anything but struggle, really), and Flowey couldn't have known she'd get a telegram from the Ruins spiders halfway through the fight,

    that he'd have had plenty of reason to think you'd have no choice but to kill her eventually.

    tl;dr Flowey's not trying to kill you, he's trying to make you kill.

    HylianAngel 8 years ago#8

    karablaise posted...

    I'm not sure Mettaton had changed bodies at all yet at that point, and his forms seem consistent enough that I don't think I'd expect him to be changing shape before someone's eyes (she clearly didn't flip his switch, after all, and he strongly implies that his new body's never been seen before).

    He can switch freely into his Mettaton NEO form during the Genocide route, which was his original form (created by Alphys to impress Asgore). If Mettaton really wanted to, he could switch into his EX form to avoid suspicion since not many people have seen him in this form yet. He also implies that he has been in either his NEO or EX form before if you input specific responses for the EX essay question.
    http://i.imgur.com/PbUjP4l.png
    http://i.imgur.com/gcBdwZt.png

    Also, the money bribe doesn't really make sense from Flowey. Like you can say that Flowey was lying, but Flowey can't really flaunt off the fact that he has lots of money.

    Soleil

    Sophos-Z 8 years ago#9

    karablaise posted...

    I also tend to think it's Flowey--I'm not sure Mettaton had changed bodies at all yet at that point, and his forms seem consistent enough that I don't think I'd expect him to be changing shape before someone's eyes (she clearly didn't flip his switch, after all, and he strongly implies that his new body's never been seen before).

    While Flowey doesn't necessarily want to kill you, he seems to know about the saves and reloads, so he'd probably know Muffet couldn't just kill you. However, he's very interested in pushing YOU into killing someone in self-defense

    ("But what will you do if you meet a relentless killer?"), and that, I think, provides plenty of motivation for him to push Muffet into fighting you. She's tough enough and uncooperative enough (you can't do anything but struggle, really), and Flowey couldn't have known she'd get a telegram from the Ruins spiders halfway through the fight, that he'd have had plenty of reason to think you'd have no choice but to kill her eventually.

    tl;dr Flowey's not trying to kill you, he's trying to make you kill.

    ...And, with a well-explained, clever paragraph, I have been converted to the side that thinks that it was Flowey.

    DarkGam3r 8 years ago#10

    Honestly I thought it was Sans after getting terrified from his "YOUD BE DEAD WHERE YOU STAND". I figured he payed Muffet to do what he cannot.

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    Who asked Muffet for your soul? ›

    The shapeshifter is Mettaton. Mettaton says during his battle: "I WAS THE ONE THAT HIRED EVERYONE TO KILL YOU!" Since Mettaton's famous, he also has the money to afford paying off Muffet.

    Who offered money to Muffet? ›

    The most likely candidate would be Mettaton. He appears to fit the description best. First, Mettaton himself says he hired all the monsters that attacked you. This definitely refers to the mercenaries in the Core, but it is also possible that he hired Muffet, as well.

    How do you beat the Spider Lady in Undertale? ›

    Strategy
    1. Muffet offers to spare the protagonist after 17 turns. ...
    2. If the protagonist purchases an item from the Spider Bake Sale in Hotland, Muffet refuses to fight and lets the protagonist pass. ...
    3. Muffet can be killed with a single hit by attacking when she offers to spare the protagonist.

    Why is Muffet in Undertale? ›

    Muffet is a miniboss the protagonist encounters in Hotland. She runs a bake sale, being very angry at passers-by who do not purchase anything from it despite selling overpriced items for 9999 gold. She was a bought-in character during the Kickstarter for the game.

    How to beat Muffet without killing her? ›

    The easiest way to beat Muffet is to buy a Spider Donut (or Spider Cider) in the Ruins and then keep it with you until her fight. If you eat it during her battle, she'll realize that you don't actually hate spiders, and end the battle early.

    How to spare Muffet without buying anything? ›

    Option 2: Wait her out.

    If you have to SPARE Muffet manually (because you couldn't afford the Donut or the Cider), you need to wait long enough (17 turns) until Muffet receives a telegram from the spiders in the Ruins who will explain that you are not evil to spiders.

    What happens if you give Muffet all your money? ›

    You will be poor. Nothing happens except you lose all your money. You waste money. You got: Nothing!

    How do I get past Muffet pacifist? ›

    1: Did you save any spider items from the Ruins? Eat one! This will end the battle immediately. 2: Survive long enough to see all her dialouge.

    Is Muffet a girl Undertale? ›

    Muffet is a supporting character in Undertale, making her first appearance after Frisk makes their way into Hotland. She is a baker that sells spider-themed pastries for unusually high prices (9999 gold), but for a good cause. She serves as a sub-boss towards the end of the game.

    How to get 9999 gold in Undertale? ›

    You have to use Dog Residue and sell the Dog Residues it generates, then use it again and sell again until you get 9999g. You can only sell to Tem Shop.

    Who is the hardest character to beat in Undertale? ›

    And this will have spoilers, so if you have not played or seen the game, I advise you to leave. Now Sans is the hardest boss in the whole game. You fight him when you do a genocide run, and he inflicts poison damage when you get hit. And there are no invincibility frames, you will continue to take damage.

    How do you spare Toriel? ›

    1. Method 1 of 2:Pacifist.
    2. Once you press the "Act" button, select "Talk", or whatever you have to use. ...
    3. You do not have to heal yourself, because the fight with Toriel does not kill you. ...
    4. Select the "Mercy" button, then select "Spare".
    5. Keep repeating this process until she gives up.
    6. You will need to do this 24 times.
    Apr 17, 2023

    Is Muffet a bad guy? ›

    Muffet is a minor antagonist in the indie RPG game Undertale. She is a spider monster who runs a bake sale charity for other spiders. At the same time, she is also hired by Mettaton to kill Frisk and turn in their SOUL in exchange for a generous amount of money.

    Why does Muffet turn your soul purple? ›

    This SOUL color is used by Muffet after she fills the Bullet Board with purple liquid on her first turn. Purple is the mode and color of the Purple Human, who is also associated with traps, note taking, problem-solving, analysis, intellect, and perseverance.

    Who is Muffet based on? ›

    Miss Muffet was a real person! Her name was Patience Muffet and she was the daughter of a Dr. Thomas Muffet who lived between 1553 and 1604. Although almost every child in Britain has heard of Little Miss Muffet, the history books tell us much more about her father than they do about Patience herself.

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