“What In The World?”: This Couple With $1,000,000 In Debt Calls Into A Finance Show, Leaves Everyone Including The Host Speechless (2024)

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American household debt hit a record $16.9 trillion at the end of 2022, according to the Federal Reserve data. If you had to write that check, it would read $16,960,000,000,000. Yep, it somewhat resembles a phone number.

$11.92 trillion is owed on mortgages, while car loan debts make up $1.55 trillion, making it slightly less than student loans, which equal $1.60 trillion. Now, credit card debts surpassed the pre-pandemic high of $927 billion with people owing a whopping $986 billion.

This viral video shared on the TikTok channel of Dave Ramsey, the famous personal finance personality, serves as a real-life testimony of the state of American debt.

The video clip taken from Ramsey’s radio program shows a 29-year-old woman calling in to ask for advice for dealing with a spine-chilling debt of $1,000,000. The video has since gone viral, amassing an impressive 22.6M views on the platform, leaving people on social media just as stunned as Ramsey himself.

A 29-year-old woman called in to Dave Ramsey’s show for advice on tackling a $1,000,000 debt she shared with her husband, leaving people speechless

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– The caller: We have probably just under a million dollars in debt and we wanna know how to get debt-free without filing for bankruptcy.

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– Dave Ramsey: Okay. How much of that is your mortgage?

– Uh, the mortgage is about $210,000.

– So you have $600,000 in what?

– $335,000 is about in student loans. We both have advanced degrees, and then a lot, the rest is really credit cards and personal loans.

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– So you have $300,000 of credit cards and personal loans?

– We have about $335,000 in student loans and then about $136,000 in credit cards, $44,000 personal loans, and $35,000 car loans.

– Okay. Um, how old are you?

– I’m 29.

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– Okay. So what in the world?

– So, yeah, so we, uh…

– I mean, are you both on this or is this just one of you that’s completely lost your mind?

– Well, I have the majority of the student loans and he has the majority of the credit cards. My credit card debt is not great…

– Okay. So why has he, at 29 years old, run up a hundred grand in credit card debt?

– Well, he’s 32, but I think it’s one of those things where just making really poor financial decisions, thinking you’ll be able to pay it down as you go and then it doesn’t happen.

– Yeah. Okay. So you both have advanced degrees. What are your degrees in?

– We do. Both of ours are advanced degrees. No, he has an MBA and I have an advanced degree in Policy. I work in the government. We actually both do now at this point, actually.

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– Okay. So your household income is?

– Our household income is about $230,000.

– Okay. All right. Is there recognition on both of your parts how absurd this situation is?

– Uh, yes. Yes, there is. So I think we’re both scared and wanna do anything we can to avoid bankruptcy.

– Okay, great. Then I’m on your team. I can skip that step. Okay, good. Well, you’re scared and you should be. You’re disgusted and you should be.

– We are.

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– You’re in the early stages of being sick and tired of being sick and tired, and you should be. Here’s the thing. You guys have been living at, across the board from your education choices to your car purchases, to your whatever, you’ve been living at about 10x where you’re gonna get to live for the next three years.

– Okay. Yep, that’s true.

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– So I’m getting ready to destroy your life as you know it because your lifestyle is considerably above your extremely good income and has been for a period of time. And so you’ve gotten used to spending like you’re in Congress, right? This is gonna be very emotional for y’all, and you’re gonna have to look at it through that lens and through a spiritual lens, or you’re not gonna make it. You’re gonna have to not care what anyone thinks, including each other, because you’re not gonna spend any money on anything ever, for the next three years.

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Dave Ramsey shared the clip on his TikTok channel, amassing a whopping 22.6M views

@daveramsey This couple is a million dollars in debt. #moneytok #broke #debt #debtpayoff #nomoney #studentloans #creditcarddebt ♬ original sound – Dave Ramsey

In this longer video, the host explained just how humbling the following years are going to be for the couple

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– Let’s pretend you’re making $210,000, and I know you just got married, but let’s pretend you’ve been doing this as a couple as you went along. You’ve been making $210,000 and spending $310,000. I’m getting ready to put you on $30,00. You’re not gonna see the inside of a restaurant unless it’s your extra job or you’re waiting on some of the people you work with during the day. This is how humbling it’s gonna be. It’s gonna crush a lot of cr*p in your soul that caused you to do this. So the bad news is it’s gonna be really rough. The good news is it’s gonna be great for you guys relationally, spiritually, and financially.

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But you’re not gonna make the financial unless you make the relational and the spiritual move. Because I know that. I know you guys ’cause I was you guys. This is exactly what I did in my twenties. I bought and purchased a lifestyle that was 5x to 10x what I had. And it was all because of cr*p inside of me that caused me to do that. And all of that has to be destroyed to fix it.

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– Absolutely.

– Is this making any sense or is this too brutal?

– No, it’s making a lot of sense and it’s brutal.

– I’m warning you what’s coming, okay. This is not a math problem. The math problem is the symptom. The problem is what’s going on inside of you guys. So the great news is you’re very smart people. And if you apply that intellect to solving this problem as if it were a policy problem or a business problem, you can solve the problem. But the lens by which the problem will be solved is through spiritual contentment. Godliness with contentment is a great gain. Translation: You’re gonna pull up at a stoplight driving a piece of cr*p car next to people that have an income a fourth of yours and have a nicer car than yours. And you’re not gonna care. That’s gonna be the cool part. You’re gonna reach the point you don’t care what other people think. And that might be a far journey for you or him, I don’t know which one it is, but one of you guys has been purchasing a lot of stuff for a lot of reasons that are gonna change. They have to. They have to because you’re on a suicide mission right now.

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– What’s the home worth?

– Let’s see, according to Zillow, the home is worth about $300,000.

– Okay, so you have a little bit of equity there, but not enough to save you. I always say that the home is the last resort, unless it’s the problem and it’s not the problem. Ratio-wise, it’s nothing compared to this other stuff. I mean, you have $330,000 in student loan debt, $200,000 on your house. It’s not the problem, you know, when the credit cards are almost as much as the stinkin’ house. So I don’t think we gotta sell it. You probably may need to sell a car. The big thing is, is just this shock to the system of your lifestyle where you go from really living what we call in Tennessee ‘high on the hog’ to you’re gonna be living ‘beans and rice, rice and beans’. Your friends are gonna think you’ve lost your mind and your mother’s gonna think you need counseling.

– We actually live with my parents now. After we got married we offered to stay with them to help us with transitioning to the new life which has definitely been helpful renting out the condo.

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Bored Panda reached out to Jan Miller, a student loan consultant and the president of Miller Student Loan Consulting, LLC to ask whether there’s a way to resolve a $1,000,000 debt without filing for bankruptcy. Miller told us that there are indeed other ways to sort out this amount of debt, though bankruptcy should still be considered as a partial solution.

“Starting with student loans, and as it relates to the video referenced, this is likely the easy part for these borrowers, relatively speaking,” Miller explained. “Making the assumption that they work directly for the government, as stated in the video, and the assumption that a majority of their debt consists of federal student loans, both husband and wife likely qualify for total student loan forgiveness under the Public Service Loan Forgiveness program,” he added.

Having said that, Miller noted that “this program will still require them both to make a combined payment of up to $1,600/mo to complete the 10-year requirement of the program before the loans are forgiven, but then the rest of the federal debt will be forgiven tax-free.”

According to him, despite what borrowers may hear, this is a reliable program which has forgiven hundreds of millions of dollars of debt in 2022 alone.

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“What In The World?”: This Couple With $1,000,000 In Debt Calls Into A Finance Show, Leaves Everyone Including The Host Speechless (2024)

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“What In The World?”: This Couple With $1,000,000 In Debt Calls Into A Finance Show, Leaves Everyone Including The Host Speechless? ›

A 29-year-old woman called in to Dave Ramsey's show for advice on tackling a $1,000,000 debt she shared with her husband, leaving people speechless. – The caller: We have probably just under a million dollars in debt and we wanna know how to get debt-free without filing for bankruptcy. – Dave Ramsey: Okay.

What is the maximum dollar amount of debt payments he should have? ›

If you cannot afford to pay your minimum debt payments, your debt amount is unreasonable. The 28/36 rule states that no more than 28% of a household's gross income should be spent on housing and no more than 36% on housing plus other debt.

How to get rid of debt without paying? ›

Which debt solutions write off debts?
  1. Bankruptcy: Writes off unsecured debts if you cannot repay them. Any assets like a house or car may be sold.
  2. Debt relief order (DRO): Writes off debts if you have a relatively low level of debt. Must also have few assets.
  3. Individual voluntary arrangement (IVA): A formal agreement.

How to pay off credit card debt when you have no money? ›

  1. Using a balance transfer credit card. ...
  2. Consolidating debt with a personal loan. ...
  3. Borrowing money from family or friends. ...
  4. Paying off high-interest debt first. ...
  5. Paying off the smallest balance first. ...
  6. Bottom line.
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What does Dave Ramsey say about credit scores? ›

2 Instagram post, Ramsey said, “Here me clearly on this: The credit score is NOT a measure of winning financially. It is 100% based on debt. The credit (or FICO) score is simply an 'I love debt' rating. No part of the credit score calculation even hints at how much wealth you have.”

How much debt does the average person have in us? ›

The average American owed $103,358 in consumer debt in the second quarter of 2023, the latest data available, according to credit bureau Experian.

What is the 28 36 rule? ›

According to the 28/36 rule, you should spend no more than 28% of your gross monthly income on housing and no more than 36% on all debts. Housing costs can include: Your monthly mortgage payment. Homeowners Insurance. Private mortgage insurance.

What debt Cannot be erased? ›

Bankruptcy is a great way to get rid of credit card debt, medical bills, and personal and payday loans. But bankruptcy can't wipe out recent income tax you owe, alimony, child support, or debt incurred from illegal acts (embezzlement, larceny, etc.)

Can I get a government loan to pay off debt? ›

While there are no government debt relief grants, there is free money to pay other bills, which should lead to paying off debt because it frees up funds. The biggest grant the government offers may be housing vouchers for those who qualify.

Who qualifies for debt forgiveness? ›

The people who qualify for forgiveness in the latest round of debt cancellation include public servants such as teachers and law enforcement officers, as well as tens of thousands of people who have signed up for Biden's new loan repayment program, called SAVE.

What happens when you never pay off your credit card? ›

An account in collections

If 180 days go by and you still haven't paid your credit card's minimum payment, the issuer can charge off your account. This means that the creditor closes your account to future purchases and writes your debt off as a loss. You're still responsible for paying the amount owed, though.

How to pay $30,000 debt in one year? ›

The 6-step method that helped this 34-year-old pay off $30,000 of credit card debt in 1 year
  1. Step 1: Survey the land. ...
  2. Step 2: Limit and leverage. ...
  3. Step 3: Automate your minimum payments. ...
  4. Step 4: Yes, you must pay extra and often. ...
  5. Step 5: Evaluate the plan often. ...
  6. Step 6: Ramp-up when you 're ready.

Can your house be taken for unpaid credit card debt? ›

If you owe money for most other debts like credit cards and medical bills, you (usually) did not sign a security agreement. So, the creditors cannot seize your home to pay the debt. But, if you want to sell your home and creditors have filed judgments for unpaid debts, you may need to pay those debts before the sale.

Do millionaires have credit scores? ›

With a higher income, they're more easily able to pay down debt and make payments on time, boosting their scores. In general, millionaires tend to have very good to excellent credit. As a result, millionaires benefit from their credit scores in the form of credit card rewards.

What is the 15 3 rule for credit score? ›

What is the 15/3 rule? The 15/3 rule, a trending credit card repayment method, suggests paying your credit card bill in two payments—both 15 days and 3 days before your payment due date. Proponents say it helps raise credit scores more quickly, but there's no real proof.

Does Dave Ramsey have a 0 credit score? ›

While Ramsey's credit score isn't 0, it probably is pretty low for a simple reason: You need to use credit in order to have a good score.

What is the maximum debt payment? ›

Debt-to-income (DTI) ratio measures the percentage of a person's monthly income that goes to debt payments. A DTI of 43% is typically the highest ratio that a borrower can have and still get qualified for a mortgage, but lenders generally seek ratios of no more than 36%.

What is the maximum amount of debt a person should have? ›

Debt-to-income ratio is your monthly debt obligations compared to your gross monthly income (before taxes), expressed as a percentage. A good debt-to-income ratio is less than or equal to 36%. Any debt-to-income ratio above 43% is considered to be too much debt.

What is maximum allowable debt? ›

Maximum DTI Ratios

The maximum can be exceeded up to 45% if the borrower meets the credit score and reserve requirements reflected in the Eligibility Matrix. For loan casefiles underwritten through DU, the maximum allowable DTI ratio is 50%.

What amount of debt is acceptable? ›

35% or less: Looking Good - Relative to your income, your debt is at a manageable level.

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