The Car Negotiation Strategy I Used to Save $3,000 - My Money Wizard (2024)

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Great news! Today is thebe-all, end-all post where I finally talk about buying a new car, from start to finish.

And to keep you from nodding off halfway through, I’ve made sure to interject this (kinda long) article with the most important lessons learned. At the end of this post, anyone should be armed with enough information and strategy to really take it to those slimy car salesmen.

The current situation’s cliff notes: My 2003 Dodge Ram truck has been on its last legs for a while now. In a perfect world, my cheap ass would love to nurse this old thing along forever.

Unfortunately, facts are facts. My 13-year-old truck is badly hail damaged. The engine sputters and has died multiple times while idling at red lights. The heater is broken, which is more than a slight problem during Minnesota’s arctic winters, and the estimated repair bill of $1,000 doesn’t make the problem any less serious.

The passenger window no longer rolls down. The door locks went rogue and started randomly unlocking last month. One of the seatbelts stopped retracting a couple thousand miles ago, and if I’m not careful I’ll slam the side door on it.

True story: I oncedrove a quarter mile from home before I realized there were feet of seatbelt dangling limply out of the bottom of the door like a sad, pathetic, broken noodle.

I could deal with all of this, if it weren’t for the truck’s atrocious gas mileage, which now hovers around an appalling combined 14 MPG. Winter gas mileage iscloser to 11 or worse.

Not only are the thrice-monthly $50 fuel ups killing my wallet, but I can’t handle the guilt of killing nature either.

Needless to say, as much as I loved my old car, it was time. Time to buy a new car.

That last sentence is particularly shocking to me, since I figured a used car was the only way to go.

When I ran the numbers and saw a sort of used car bubble, I realized it made more sense for me to buy a new car, enjoy the peace of mind, and still leave my wallet relatively unaffected compared to if I bought used.

Stage 1) Research, Research, then Some More Research

The most important thing you can do leading into any car purchase is become a knowledgeable customer.

If you’re not annoying all of your friends, family, and blog readers by discussing available car prices AGAIN, chances are you’re not doing enough research.

In my case, I narrowed down my preferred car type to a few important points:

  • I wanted something so reliable that in 15 years I could proudly use my old beater as a shopping cart rammer in grocery store parking lots.
  • A decade of 14 mpg had me bitter enough at the gas pump to refuse anything less than 30+ mpg.
  • Hatchbacks are the most practical cars on the road.

From here I narrowed the choices down to: the Mazda 3, the Hyundai Elantra GT, and the Honda Fit.

After test driving the Honda Fit and being impressed with its incredible practicality, while simultaneously being bored to tears, I knew I had narrowed my search between the Mazda 3 or the Elantra GT.

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Both cars are two of the cheapest on the market, which in this country means they come with more luxurious bells and whistles than any reasonable person will know what to do with.

They both sport good gas mileage, adequate storage, and are leaders in reliability. Neither come with the impracticality of a sports car, yet they’re both pretty fun to drive.

From my test drives, I much preferred the Mazda 3, but I did not prefer its nearly $3,000 higher MSRP.

For the record, MSRP means, “some bogus inflated price from the manufacturer that you should never, under any circ*mstances, pay more than.”

To get a better idea of the actual price, I used the TrueCar.com market pricing, which shows the average sales prices for cars in your area. According to TrueCar, the average Mazda 3 with the most basic package was selling for $19,292, which although that’snearly half of the average vehicle price in the US,is still an absolutely insane amount of money.

So I waited. And waited…

I watched prices go up and down while deals came and went. I signed up for a few email lists and learned something interesting; dealerships run “the deal of a lifetime” pretty much around the clock.

When $1,000 cash back ended, 0% APR financing started the next week. When 0% APR ended, $1,000 bonus trade-in cash arrived.

Lesson #1 Learned: Never feel rushed to buy a car based on current promos. There’s always another deal around the corner, and it will probably amount to the exact same value as the current offer.

That said, ask anyone in the car industry, and they will admit the best time to buy a new car is towards the end of the year. Why? The next year’s models are out, so dealers are eager to get rid of the “old” models. For you, this means cheap prices.

This prediction panned out just like I expected. From April to September, I logged into Cars.com frequently, and I watched the prices hover around $19,000 for new Mazda 3s.

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By November, the price was slashed down to less than $18,000. Now we’re getting closer…

Lesson #2 Learned: If you’re buying a new car, always wait for the year-end pricedrop.

Stage 2) To Hell’s Gates (the Car Dealership)

Feeling like I had successfully low pointed the entry level price, it was time to make things more serious by heading to the dealership.

The dealership with the lowest priced Mazda 3 in the color I wanted prominently advertised itself as a “No Haggle Dealership.”

These “No Haggle” or “No Negotiation” dealerships are a hot trend in the car industry. They’re also complete bullsh*t.

Here’s the real truth: In order to advertise as a no negotiating dealership, the dealer does actually apply and receive a license which legally forbids them from haggling on the car’s sticker price.

BUT, that license says nothing about their ability to haggle on your vehicle’s trade in price, available rebates, interest rates, etc.

In other words, they negotiate. A lot.

Lesson #3 Learned: Cars are always negotiable. Don’t let some dealership take you to the cleaners under the guise of being “the nice guys who don’t negotiate.”

Knowing this info, I knew the area we could most negotiate on was my trade in vehicle.

You know, that old thing with a Kelly Blue Book value of $3,400 in “Excellent” condition. Given the giant dent in the rear, the $4,000 of hail damage around the whole body, the looming $1,000 heater repair, and a host of other issues, I’d say that thing passed excellent condition about 100,000 miles ago.

Like hell I’ll share that opinion with the car dealer though.

Stage 3) The Negotiation, Step by Step

I stepped foot into the dealership, pretending I wasn’t sure which color I liked best. (A negotiating tactic… I had come specifically to this dealership because they had the only model in the color I wanted within 150 miles.)

I went in there proudly spouting that I received a $4,000 trade in value on my truck from multiple competing Hyundai dealerships. The truth, of course, was that the best trade in I could muster at every dealership but one was only$2,500 to $3,000 dollars.

But when I convinced one Hyundai dealership to up their offer to $4,000 after tense negotiation which revealed their car had some mechanical issues, I ran with it. $4,000 was my new benchmark for what my beater was worth.

Lesson #4 Learned: Over-inflateyour competing trade in offers. The selling dealer isn’t about to get on the phone with other dealerships to make sure you’re telling the truth, and they don’t really care either way. They just want to sell a car.

I decided if they could match my inflated trade-in expectations and knock a little off of their already rock bottom, “no negotiation” price of $17,700, I would know I’d be getting a more than fair price.

So after poker-facing the test drive, we started the negotiations. I told them the above expectations, and of course at some point, the salesman goes back to check with his manager.

He comes out valuing my trade-in at $3,000, and hands me a piece of paper showing a total price, after trade-in, of $19,000! Those slimy salesman had pulled a switch, and started the negotiation at $22,000 instead of $17,700!

Of course, I sternly called them out on this nonsense, and what do you know, just an innocent mistake on their part.

“Oops, just almost accidentally charged you $4,000 too much, our bad…”

The number of people who probably get lost in the numbers, are too embarrassed to ask for clarification, and continue with the salesman’sswitch-a-roo “negotiation” reallybreaks my heart.

Lesson 5: Double check EVERYTHING. There’s no low these guys won’t go to extract as much money as possible from you. Don’t be embarrassedto bring a calculator.

Once they re-calibrated the negotiation to the accurate sticker price, I told them$3,000 for my trade-in still wasn’t good enough.

The appraisal manager came out and talked in circles for a while, which is a common negotiating tactic they use to try to intimidate and confuse you as much as possible.

Eventually, he offered a counter of $3,500 for the trade-in.

I stood firm, and again told them no deal. “I know it’s a high trade-in value,” I said, “but it’s what it will take for me to feel comfortable with this purchase. This really comes down to how badly you guys want to make a deal today,” I said.

He then threw in an extra $500. I told him to match the lowest Mazda 3 I’d seen within 250 miles, which was still $300 cheaper.

“Are you really going to hold my feet to the fire over $300?” He asked.

“Yes,” I said, without hesitating.

He extended a handshake. Done deal.

Lesson 6: Stand firm. Sometimes a strong “Yes” or “No” answer is the most powerful answer you can give.

The final out of pocket numbers came out like this:

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After triple checking there were no prepayment or early payoff penalties, I got an extra $1,000 cash back by taking out a loan I have no intention of keeping. The first payment is not due until March, at which time I will pay off the entire loan.

Could I have done better? Maybe, but I’m happy with the deal. $2,000 off the average sales price in my area, plus $500 over KBB excellent for my mess of a trade-in makes me confident I got one of the better deals possible.

What car buying tips do you have?

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FAQs

What strategy will help Karim save money on a used car? ›

Expert-Verified Answer

Negotiating the price. Negotiation is crucial when Karim decides the model to buy. She should utilize some negotiation tactics to get the price of the car lowered to her requirement. Never negotiate with only one dealer.

What to say when a car dealer asks your budget? ›

Counter the monthly payment conversation: Your dealer may ask what you're hoping to pay for your car each month. Instead, tell your salesperson that you'd prefer discussing the car's out-the-door price and fair market value. If need be, you can always discuss refinancing your car loan down the road.

What not to say to a car salesman? ›

Eliminating the following statements when you buy a car can help you negotiate a better deal.
  • 'I love this car! ' ...
  • 'I've got to have a monthly payment of $350. ' ...
  • 'My lease is up next week. ' ...
  • 'I want $10,000 for my trade-in, and I won't take a penny less. ' ...
  • 'I've been looking all over for this color. '
Feb 14, 2021

What do you say when negotiating a car? ›

When negotiating, it helps to be able to justify what you're asking for, he adds: “Instead of saying, 'I want to pay this,' try something like: 'I've looked at five or six different cars that are similar to yours in the market. The price range goes from $19,500 to $20,700. I'm comfortable making an offer of $19,100.

How can I save enough money for a car? ›

Save for a car by following these seven steps.
  1. Decide to Lease or Purchase. ...
  2. Calculate What You Can Afford. ...
  3. Factor in Other Car Expenses. ...
  4. Set a Monthly Savings Goal. ...
  5. Adjust Your Household Budget. ...
  6. Open a Savings Account and Automate Savings Transfers. ...
  7. Consider a Side Hustle. ...
  8. Improve Your Credit Score.
May 25, 2023

Which car saves you the most money? ›

Hybrids offer some of the best fuel economy you can get in a vehicle. This means more savings for you. Even if the initial sticker price is higher than what you'd find with a gas-powered car, the fuel efficiency can more than make up for that over time.

How do you get taken seriously at a car dealership? ›

Learn about Your Dream Car

Before you ever step foot on a dealer lot, you need to know the specifications of the vehicle you want to purchase. Include safety ratings and check out Consumer Reports. Sales staff will know you are not messing around when you can tell them more about the vehicle than even they know.

How do you beat a car salesman at his own game? ›

If you want to beat car dealerships at their own game, you need to first understand the true market value of what you're buying and trading in. You should also get quotes via phone or email before you physically go into the dealership, and then skip all the extras they'll push you to buy.

How do you respond when asked about your budget? ›

Go ahead and share your budget estimate, even if it's a broad range. Cite a high- and low-end, or give a more specific figure if you're comfortable doing so. If your budget depends on a variety of factors, be open about that. What considerations will impact how much you can spend?

Can you talk a car salesman down on price? ›

The short answer is yes. However, for many, even the thought of negotiating new car prices can seem intimidating. Treat this experience like any negotiation and go in with a plan. The more thought you put into it upfront, the more confidence you'll feel about speaking with your dealer about the price of your new car.

Why do car salesmen always talk to manager? ›

The ploy, “Let me go talk to my manager" is called a T O or a turn over. Most dealerships require that a salesperson do a T O before letting the customer leave, in other words, if they cant close the deal then they turn it over and let someone else try.

Should you never tell a car dealer you are paying cash? ›

"So if you tell them up front you're paying cash, the dealer knows he has no opportunity to make money off you from financing. So, he might not be as moveable on purchase price if he already knows he isn't going to make any money off you from financing." This likely holds true if you've been preapproved for financing.

What are 3 tips you should remember when negotiating for a car? ›

It's also vital to remain willing to walk away from any deal that's not going your way.
  1. 1) Knowledge Is Power.
  2. 2) Remember It Is a Business Transaction.
  3. 3) Don't Focus on the Payment.
  4. 4) Know What You Can and Can't Negotiate.
  5. 5) Know the Deals.
  6. 6) Have Pre-Approved Financing Before You Shop.
  7. 7) Separate the Trade-In.

How much can you usually negotiate a car down? ›

The main difference will be how much you can negotiate off the retail price: New cars. It is considered reasonable to start by asking for 5% off the invoice price of a new car and negotiate from there. Depending on how the negotiation goes, you should end up paying between the invoice price and the sticker price.

What do you say when a car dealer asks your budget? ›

I tell them what I am prepared to spend. That is usually the amount of money I have in my pocket, as I always pay cash. And if they offer me a car which costs more, I'll ask whether they are going to sell it to me for the price I told them is my budget.

How does buying a used car save money? ›

Lower insurance costs and fees: Many pre-owned cars carry lower insurance rates, titling fees and sales taxes. You may save both on the lot and over the car's life. Slower depreciation: Used cars also depreciate much slower.

How can keeping an old car save you money? ›

Keeping your old car makes sense if: You're on a Tight Budget. You'll almost always save money by hanging on to your old car for as long as possible. Even if a new car costs less to repair and fill up, those savings are dwarfed by the upfront cost, monthly payments, and higher insurance.

What are three tips you should follow when buying a used car? ›

6 key steps to buying a used car
  • Make a budget and stick to it. Look at your budget and determine how much you can afford to spend monthly on a car loan. ...
  • Research cars that fit your needs. ...
  • Get preapproved for financing. ...
  • Shop around for a car. ...
  • Fully research a car after test driving. ...
  • Negotiate and finalize the purchase.
Mar 11, 2024

How can I increase the value of my used car? ›

Factors that affect car resale value
  1. Make and model. All cars are not made equal, and some cars just have an inherently higher resale value due to their make and model. ...
  2. Condition. ...
  3. Mileage and age. ...
  4. Modifications. ...
  5. Color. ...
  6. Avoiding smoking or eating in the car. ...
  7. Keeping pets off the upholstery. ...
  8. Being thoughtful with upgrades.

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