How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (2024)

By T.J. Porter, WCI Contributor

A Backdoor Roth IRA is a great way to contribute to your Roth IRA even if you exceed the account’s income maximums. However, each broker makes the process slightly different. We've already written about how Vanguard account holders can contribute to their Backdoor Roth IRAs, and we've discussed how to do it with your Fidelity account, as well. But what about using a Backdoor Roth IRA if you deal with Schwab?

Today, you'll learn how.To get started, you’ll need to make sure you have both a traditional and a Roth IRA at Schwab. If you don't already have those accounts, that should only take a few minutes to accomplish. Then you’re ready to get started with the Backdoor Roth IRA process.

First, though, let's review what a Backdoor Roth IRA is and why you might need one.

The annual maximum that one person can contribute to a Roth IRA—which allows you to put post-tax money into an account that will then grow tax-free and allow the money in it to be withdrawn tax-free—is $6,500 for 2023 and $7,500 if you're 50 or older.

But once your Modified Adjusted Gross Income (MAGI) rises to $138,000-$153,000 for single filers and $218,000-$228,000 for those married filing jointly [2022], you begin to phase out of Roth IRA contributions. If you make more than $153,000 (single) and more than $228,000 (married) in 2022, the Roth IRA is off limits to you. That's when you can turn to the Backdoor Roth IRA process to indirectly contribute to your Roth IRA.

You do that by contributing to a traditional IRA (again, a maximum of $6,500 for 2023), and then a few days after that money hits your account, you transfer the money from the traditional IRA to the Roth IRA that you've already set up. This process will result in a pro-rated tax bill if you already have money in a traditional IRA, so if you want to perform the Backdoor Roth, you'll need to send that money elsewhere.

In late 2021 and early 2022, a potential bill was floated out of Congress that would have wiped out the ability for anybody to make a Backdoor Roth IRA. That provision never passed, though, and as such, the Backdoor Roth IRA lives on for those who make too much money to make regular Roth IRA contributions.

If you have a Schwab account, here's how to utilize the Backdoor Roth IRA process.

Step 1: Contribute to Your Schwab Traditional IRA

Log in to your account at Schwab. If you don’t have a traditional IRA at the broker, click the “Open An Account” button at the top of the page. Follow the prompts to set up your account and fund it.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (4)

If you already have a traditional IRA at the broker, click “Transfers & Payments” instead.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (5)

Then, choose how you’d like to transfer funds. An online transfer will be the quickest and easiest way to contribute for most people.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (6)

Choose to transfer cash only, then select the account to transfer cash from, and select your IRA in the “To” field.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (7)

An online transfer into the traditional IRA will take 1-2 business days if you’re moving money from an external bank account, but it will complete on the same day if you’re moving money from another Schwab account. Once you set up the transfer and the money lands in the traditional IRA account, it's time to move to the next step.

Step 2: Convert Your Schwab Traditional IRA to a Roth IRA

Once your money shows up in your traditional IRA, you’re ready to convert the balance to a Roth IRA. From your account page, follow the same steps to get to the transfer page.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (8)

Select Online Transfers.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (9)

This time, select your traditional IRA as your “From” account and your Roth IRA as your “To” account.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (10)

After a warning about the tax implications, you’ll see a new page for converting your traditional IRA to Roth IRA. Select the “From” and “To” accounts again, and then choose a “Full Conversion.”

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (11)

You’ll see another window about tax withholding for IRA distributions. Select “No” for federal and state tax withholding if applicable.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (12)

Click Submit on the final page and your conversion is complete!

Step 3: Choose Your Roth IRA Investments

Once your cash reaches your Roth IRA, it’s time to choose how to invest your money.

From your main account page, hover your mouse over “Trade” and select the type of securities you’d like to buy. For this example, we’ll choose “All-In-One Trade Ticket” as it can be used to purchase any type of security.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (13)

Make sure you have your Roth IRA selected, choose the type of investment you’d like to buy under the “Strategy” dropdown, and enter the ticker symbol. In this example, we’ve chosen Schwab’s S&P 500 mutual fund.

Select “Buy,” enter the amount to invest, and select whether you want to reinvest dividends and/or capital gains.

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (14)

Make sure the details of the order are correct on the Verify Order page and click “Submit.” Once you see the confirmation page, you’re done!

Schwab makes the whole process quick and easy, especially if you already have money at the brokerage that you’d like to move into your Roth IRA.

If you’re still wondering about whether a Backdoor Roth IRA is worth it for you or you want more details on how they work, check out our in-depth tutorial on How to Do a Backdoor Roth IRA. But whether taking the time is worth it, know this: consistently implementing the Backdoor strategy could eventually make you a Roth IRA millionaire.

Are you using the Backdoor Roth IRA to diversify and minimize taxes? Do you do your Backdoor Roth IRA(s) at Schwab each year? What problems have you run into? Comment below!

How to Backdoor Roth Schwab Tutorial [with Screenshots] | White Coat Investor (2024)

FAQs

How to avoid pro-rata rule backdoor Roth? ›

As long as the taxpayer does not hold any pre-tax IRA funds at the end of the year, a backdoor Roth contribution could be executed without having to worry about the pro-rata rule.

What is the backdoor Roth trick? ›

A “backdoor” Roth IRA allows high earners to sidestep the Roth IRA's income limits by converting nondeductible traditional IRA contributions to a Roth IRA. That typically requires you to pay income taxes on funds being rolled into the Roth account that have not previously been taxed.

What is the 5 year rule for backdoor Roth IRAs? ›

The Roth IRA five-year rule says you cannot withdraw earnings tax-free until it's been at least five years since you first contributed to a Roth IRA account. This five-year rule applies to everyone who contributes to a Roth IRA, whether they're 59 ½ or 105 years old.

How to complete form 8606 for Roth conversion? ›

Enter the following if applicable:
  1. Enter the total nonqualified distributions from ROTH IRAs taken in the current tax year.
  2. Enter your Basis in ROTH IRA contributions.
  3. Enter your Basis in ROTH IRA conversions.
  4. Enter any qualified first home buyer expenses.

Why is backdoor Roth bad? ›

Cons: All or part of a backdoor Roth IRA conversion could be a taxable event. You may have to pay federal, state, and local taxes on converted earnings and deductible contributions. Conversions could kick you into a higher tax bracket for the year.

How do I avoid 10% penalty on a Roth conversion? ›

This is because a five-year waiting period is required if you are under age 59 1/2 before you can distribute the converted amount without owing the 10% additional tax. The longer the assets in the Roth IRA can be left untouched, the greater the benefit of tax-free earnings potentially accumulating.

Is Backdoor Roth still allowed in 2024? ›

Another option, if your employer's plan offers it, is the mega backdoor Roth. Under this option you would make after-tax contributions into your employer's 401(k) plan. For 2024 the limit for these after-tax contributions is $46,000.

Who is not eligible for backdoor Roth IRA? ›

Tax Implications of a Backdoor Roth IRA

Roth IRA Income Limits: For 2023, if your MAGI is $153,000 ($161,000 in 2024) or higher and you're single, or $228,000 ($240,000 in 2024) or higher and you're married filing jointly or a qualifying widow or widower, then you can't contribute to a traditional Roth IRA.

What is a super backdoor Roth? ›

Put very simply, the mega backdoor Roth strategy entails 2 steps: (1) making after-tax contributions to your 401(k) or other workplace retirement plan, and (2) then doing a conversion either to a Roth IRA or Roth 401(k). (Note that not all plans allow these steps; more details on that below.)

Do you get taxed twice on backdoor Roth? ›

You won't pay double taxes with a backdoor Roth, but you may end up paying some taxes depending on your financial situation. Talk with your financial advisor before making this move to minimize taxes and maximize retirement benefits.

What is the income limit for a backdoor Roth IRA? ›

Backdoor Roth IRA income limits

If your modified adjusted gross income (MAGI) is above certain income limits, then the amount you can contribute to a Roth IRA is phased out. The phaseout occurs between $146,000 and $161,000 for single filers and $230,000 and $240,000 for joint filers in 2024.

Is Backdoor Roth going away? ›

In November 2021, the U.S. House of Representatives approved a measure that would have closed the backdoor Roth loophole, but the legislation has stalled in the Senate. For now, the backdoor remains open, but it may not always stay that way.

What happens if you don't file form 8606? ›

Failure to file Form 8606 for a distribution could result in the IRA owner (or beneficiary) paying income tax and the additional 10 percent early distribution penalty tax on amounts that should be tax-free.

How do you complete a backdoor Roth conversion? ›

How to open a backdoor Roth IRA
  1. Put money in a traditional IRA account. You might already have an account, or you might need to open one and fund it. ...
  2. Convert your contribution to a Roth IRA. Your IRA administrator will give you the instructions and paperwork. ...
  3. Prepare to pay taxes.
Mar 28, 2024

Can form 8606 be filed electronically? ›

If Form 8606 is filed separately, it cannot be e-filed and must be printed out and mailed to the IRS. The taxpayer address and preparer information can be manually filled in after the form is printed.

Is Mega Backdoor Roth subject to pro-rata rule? ›

The pro-rata rule applies to mega backdoor Roths when you have pre-tax and after-tax contributions in a traditional 401(k). Under the rule, you can't just convert your after-tax contributions.

What issue is a backdoor Roth IRA contribution a workaround to solve? ›

A Solution to Income Limits: The Backdoor Roth IRA serves as a workaround for these income limits. It starts with a non-deductible contribution to a Traditional IRA. Then you convert that contribution to a Roth IRA.

Do simple IRAs count for pro-rata rule? ›

IRS Form 8606 states on line 6: “Enter the value of all your traditional, SEP, and SIMPLE IRAs as of December 31.” The value of your Roth IRA is excluded from this calculation. Pro-rata rule looks at all your non-Roth IRA accounts (including SEP and SIMPLEs) as of December 31 of the year of the conversion.

Top Articles
Latest Posts
Article information

Author: Carmelo Roob

Last Updated:

Views: 6285

Rating: 4.4 / 5 (45 voted)

Reviews: 92% of readers found this page helpful

Author information

Name: Carmelo Roob

Birthday: 1995-01-09

Address: Apt. 915 481 Sipes Cliff, New Gonzalobury, CO 80176

Phone: +6773780339780

Job: Sales Executive

Hobby: Gaming, Jogging, Rugby, Video gaming, Handball, Ice skating, Web surfing

Introduction: My name is Carmelo Roob, I am a modern, handsome, delightful, comfortable, attractive, vast, good person who loves writing and wants to share my knowledge and understanding with you.