Hedonia vs. Eudaimonia | White Coat Investor (2024)

By Dr. Jim Dahle, WCI Founder

I've written before about some of the struggles of the young who are financially independent (FI). However, some of these struggles can extend into the lives of those who are not even financially independent yet. Here's an example from my email inbox:

“I am a private practice optometrist that was approached by a private equity group to buy out my practice. I am having a tremendous internal struggle with this. On one hand, if the sale would go through, I would hit instant FI. I would be FI by 40. This would give me the freedom to continue to work only because I want to, not because I have to; more vacations with family, etc. I think back to ‘if you have won the game, stop playing.' On the other hand, I would be an employee and would have to give up some of my entrepreneurial side. I would be young and have plenty of time to do other things, but there will be noncompetes and legal things in place that would make owning another clinic difficult without moving my family.

My clinic does well, and we are continuing to grow. So, break-even point would probably be about 10-15 years if I decide not to sell. My entrepreneurial side comes in again and I think to myself, the practice still has room for growth and I could cut down that break-even point. The sky's the limit. I could open up another practice, but the hill to climb to get to this point has been a lot. How does one navigate these struggles? What stops you from walking away and doing whatever you want with life? Have you spoken to others that have sold to PE? Are they happy with the decisions that they made? What would they do differently? As I write this email, I find myself going back and forth in my thoughts.”

I'm not really going to answer this question in the post (I already emailed this person back addressing their questions). What I want to talk about is hedonia and eudaimonia and how they interact in our minds, especially when dealing with questions like these.

What Is Hedonia?

You may be familiar with the term hedonia from the term “hedonic treadmill.” The treadmill is simply the idea that when you spend money on something new and cool—whether an experience or a thing—it soon becomes routine. You've spent money and even raised your ongoing lifestyle costs without actually increasing the amount of pleasure in your life. Yet you keep seeking more and more, having to run faster and faster at work to afford the next level of pleasure-seeking.

Academics define hedonia as experiences of high positive affect, low negative affect, and high life satisfaction. However, it is probably best to just think of it as pleasure or fun. The personal finance (and especially FIRE) blogosphere/podcastophere spends a lot of time encouraging you to become FI so you can be happy and do what you want. They're mostly talking about hedonia. When you are slogging away at work and spending all of your time thinking about retiring, traveling, playing, and lying around, you probably have an acute hedonia deficiency. You're hedonipenic.

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What Is Eudaimonia?

The term you may not be as familiar with is eudaimonia. Eudaimonia also broadly means happiness, but it's a different kind of happiness. A Greek word, originating from Aristotle, it usually translates to human flourishing or living well. However, the best way to think about it is “purpose.” Hedonia is pleasure, and eudaimonia is purpose.

Arthur C. Brooks, in his excellent From Strength to Strength: Finding Success, Happiness, and Deep Purpose in the Second Half of Life, discusses these two types of happiness. He writes:

“Over the years, I have endured many graduation ceremonies and have observed that there are two basic types of speeches from commencement speakers. The first can be summarized as ‘Go find your purpose.' The second is ‘Find work you love and you'll never work a day in your life.' Which one is better advice—not just for graduates, but for all of us? . . . This is an example of the age-old debate over two kinds of happiness that scholars refer to as hedonia and eudaimonia. Hedonia is about feeling good, eudaimonia is about living a purpose-filled life. In truth, we need both. Hedonia without eudaimonia devolves into empty pleasure; eudaimonia without hedonia can become dry . . . I think we should seek work that is a balance of enjoyable and meaningful. At the nexus of enjoyable and meaningful is interesting. Interest is considered by many neuroscientists to be a positive primary emotion, processed in the limbic system of the brain. Something that truly interests you is intensely pleasurable; it also must have meaning in order to hold your interest. Thus, ‘Is this work deeply interesting to me?' is a helpful litmus test.”

Balancing Hedonia and Eudaimonia in My Life

I love the concept of balancing hedonia and eudaimonia. I have had periods where I was hedonipenic, and other periods where I was eudaimopenic. The classic example in my life is a couple of months between my first and second year of medical school. I had a military rotation right in the middle of those three months, but that left me with a month on either side to do whatever I wanted. So, I played. A lot. Golfed most days. Went climbing. Played a lot of video games. By the end of the month, going to the golf course felt like work. The pleasure was gone. I had no purpose. I was eudaimopenic. Residency was the opposite. Incredible purpose and meaning. I was finally applying what I had been learning for the prior eight years. I was helping people, learning cool new stuff, and becoming more and more competent each day. But there wasn't a lot of pleasure in my life. I was hedonipenic.

Balance is the key.

Hedonia is pleasure. For me, this is a great meal. It's going rock climbing or canyoneering with my friends. It's planning and going on a trip. It's floating down a river, anticipating the next rapid. It's snuggling up with my kids or my wife and watching a movie on Netflix. It's “Netflix and chill.” It's playing video games. It's playing hockey or going skiing. Not much purpose, but a whole lot of fun and pleasure.

Eudaimonia is purpose. It's typing random thoughts into the internet for you to read and other WCI work. It's seeing patients. It's coaching hockey. It taking youth canyoneering. It's volunteer work and church service. None of that is really pleasurable in the same way as the activities listed under hedonia above. But without it, the hedonia activities aren't nearly as enjoyable. I need work—meaningful work—to be happy. Now, I don't need that much of it. I probably don't need as much as I'm doing now. But I absolutely need some of it.

I want my obituary to read that I lived a life of adventure and service. Hedonia and eudaimonia. What will yours read?

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Balancing Hedonia and Eudaimonia in Your Life

The doc in the example above could probably use a little more hedonia. But he is rightly worried about not having enough eudaimonia or letting the pendulum swing too far. Selling out to private equity is great . . . if you're done working. Nobody Very few actually prefer working for a PE-owned clinic instead of a clinic they own. They're only doing it for the money, and money doesn't bring any eudaimonia. So, older docs are much more likely to sell out (especially if they're short on cash) than younger docs. The questions that a young doc needs to answer before selling are:

  • “What am I going to do with the rest of my life?”
  • “What is my purpose?”
  • “How will I get eudaimonia?”
  • “Will working as an employee optometrist really do it for me?”

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If you're like most working docs, you've got plenty of eudaimonia in your life right now. You're probably a little short on hedonia. Are there adjustments you can make to shift your balance a little without killing the goose that lays the golden eggs (both financially and in terms of eudaimonia)? Maybe you can drop a half-day of clinic a week and go golfing or hiking. Maybe you need to see fewer patients per hour so you can get your charting done by 5pm. Maybe you can spend a little less so you don't have to take so much call or work so many shifts.

On the other hand, are you a bored, purposeless retiree? Can you go back to work on your terms? Is volunteer work right for you? Can you derive purpose from helping to raise grandkids or caring for an ill spouse?

Creativity and knowing yourself go a long way. I hope everyone gets a chance in their life to experience too much and too little of each of these two types of happiness. Then, you can find the perfect balance for you between pleasure and purpose.

What do you think? Has your pendulum swung too much toward hedonia or eudaimonia? What can you do to swing it back a bit the other way? What do you want your obituary to say? Comment below!

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Hedonia vs. Eudaimonia | White Coat Investor? ›

Hedonia is about feeling good, eudaimonia

eudaimonia
In his Nicomachean Ethics (1095a15–22) Aristotle says that eudaimonia means 'doing and living well'. It is significant that synonyms for eudaimonia are living well and doing well. In the standard English translation, this would be to say that 'happiness is doing well and living well'.
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is about living a purpose-filled life. In truth, we need both. Hedonia without eudaimonia devolves into empty pleasure; eudaimonia without hedonia can become dry . . . I think we should seek work that is a balance of enjoyable and meaningful.

What is Aristotle's Hedonia and eudaimonia? ›

Hedonia and Eudaimonia

There is a philosophical and psychological debate between those who see happiness as being “hedonic” versus “eudaimonic” — that is, as pleasure versus fulfillment. It is something Aristotle and the subsequent “Eudaimonic schools” (like the Stoics, Skeptics and Epicureans) took very seriously.

What is the difference between hedonism and eudaimonia? ›

There are two fundamental types of happiness, namely hedonism and eudaimonism. Hedonic happiness comes from the pursuit of pleasure and the avoidance of pain, whereas eudaimonic happiness comes from the pursuit of authenticity, meaning, virtue and growth.

What is eudaimonia and Hedonia in positive psychology? ›

Happiness can be defined in many ways. In psychology, there are two popular conceptions of happiness: hedonic and eudaimonic. Hedonic happiness is achieved through experiences of pleasure and enjoyment, while eudaimonic happiness is achieved through experiences of meaning and purpose.

What is the opposite of hedonia? ›

Anhedonia is the inability to enjoy things that should be pleasurable.

What is the difference between eudaimonia and Hedonia which one is most important to you to achieve? ›

What is the difference between hedonic and eudaimonic? Hedonic is something that pursues pleasure to achieve happiness. Eudaimonic is something that pursues meaning to achieve happiness long term.

What is the main idea of Aristotle's eudaimonia? ›

The closest English word for the Ancient Greek term eudaimonia is probably “flourishing”. The philosopher Aristotle used it as a broad concept to describe the highest good humans could strive toward – or a life 'well lived'.

What is the difference between hedonism and eudaimonia which is a better predictor of life satisfaction? ›

Whereas hedonic well-being (life satisfaction, negative affect, and positive affect) is more likely to be associated with short-term orientation and a focus on immediate pleasures and satisfying current needs, eudaimonic well-being (psychological and social well-being) is expected to be more strongly associated with a ...

What is the opposite of eudaimonia? ›

synonyms: eudaemonia, upbeat, weal, welfare, well-being, wellbeing. antonyms: ill-being.

Is eudaimonia the same as happiness? ›

Eudaimonia' is most commonly understood as meaning 'happiness' in Ancient Greek. Many scholars argue that a more suitable english translation for 'eudaimonia' is “flourishing”.

What is an example of Hedonia? ›

examples of Hedonia:
  • eating your favorite meal.
  • watching your favorite movie.
  • going for a vacation.
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What are the complementary roles of eudaimonia and Hedonia? ›

Briefly, a hedonic orientation involves seeking happiness, positive affect, life satisfaction, and reduced negative affect; a eudaimonic orientation includes seeking authenticity, meaning, excellence, and personal growth (Huta & Waterman, 2013).

What is the relationship of eudaimonia and Hedonia with work outcomes? ›

Furthermore, eudaimonia and hedonia have a synergistic effect, with experienced eudaimonia having a bigger effect on employee outcomes when hedonia is higher.

Why is eudaimonia better than hedonia? ›

Hedonia is about feeling good, eudaimonia is about living a purpose-filled life. In truth, we need both. Hedonia without eudaimonia devolves into empty pleasure; eudaimonia without hedonia can become dry . . . I think we should seek work that is a balance of enjoyable and meaningful.

What is the philosophy of Hedonia? ›

Psychological hedonism, also known as motivational hedonism, is an empirical theory about what motivates us: it states that all actions by humans aim at increasing pleasure and avoiding pain. This is usually understood in combination with egoism, i.e. that each person only aims at their happiness.

What is the concept of Hedonia? ›

Hedonia (happiness as pleasure) and eudaimonia (happiness as personal fulfillment) are two conceptions of happiness whose roots can be traced to classical Hellenic philosophy.

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